Basecamp's ONCE Campfire · ported to F# · Phase 7, live
F# just passed Rust.
Basecamp's chat app, ported to F# so it can't be told apart from the Rails original or the Rust port. Latest run: 1.32× Rust's throughput, +73.8% since tuning began.
1.32×of Rust, latest run
+73.8%since tuning began
16code changes to get here
24%ahead of Rust
Tue 6 Oct, 01:00 EDT · phase 5 · tier quickFirst whole-app run: the F# port boots and serves all five workloadscommit 72b938e · image (Docker port, wrk) build · overall 0.76× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
9,130– µs
11,285– µs
227
0.81×40× Rails
1,665– µs
2,487– µs
111
0.67×15× Rails
Messages page
9,350– µs
12,452– µs
390
0.75×24× Rails
2,079– µs
2,673– µs
209
0.78×10× Rails
Sidebar
10,404– µs
14,237– µs
581
0.73×18× Rails
2,263– µs
2,879– µs
268
0.79×8× Rails
Search
4,321– µs
5,650– µs
410
0.76×11× Rails
1,722– µs
2,095– µs
189
0.82×9× Rails
Post a message
427– µs
554– µs
310
0.77×1× Rails
311– µs
449– µs
160
0.69×2× Rails
What was done
Unit 5.3 ported the room, message, boost, bot API and search controllers, wired to the fragment cache and gzip-spliced page parts as in Rust. A quick wrk check, 6 s per path, through Docker's published port on the Mac (so it includes the port proxy and is not the benchmark method), F# then Rust, each on a fresh default seed. Rough, but the first time the real port faced Rust end to end.
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust was measured in the same run. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 03:16 EDT · baseline · tier 5bWhole-app baseline: bench/run, Rails vs Rust vs F#, 3 repscommit 794dc8b · image e111a4e (2 s warm-up) build · overall 0.79× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
21,003– µs
28,135– µs
227
0.75×92× Rails
3,329– µs
6,310– µs
111
0.53×30× Rails
Messages page
23,097– µs
29,406– µs
390
0.79×59× Rails
4,044– µs
6,625– µs
209
0.61×19× Rails
Sidebar
19,115– µs
27,938– µs
581
0.68×33× Rails
3,738– µs
6,116– µs
268
0.61×14× Rails
Search
19,411– µs
26,049– µs
410
0.75×47× Rails
3,922– µs
5,491– µs
189
0.71×21× Rails
Post a message
6,186– µs
6,082– µs
310
1.02×20× Rails
1,909– µs
2,727– µs
160
0.70×12× Rails
What was done
Plan step 5b, before any tuning. bench/run in the colima VM with the server pinned to CPUs 0-3 and the load generator to 4-7, host networking, 3 reps per app, every response checked (all 200), every post's row counted, decoded bytes identical to Rust's. A skeptical Opus review re-ran it and trimmed F#'s c=16 ratios slightly (room 0.71, messages 0.74) and flagged the 2 s warm-up, which the Phase 7 harness then lengthened. Falco measured at about 29 ns a request.
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust was measured in the same run. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 10:25 EDT · phase 7 start · tier 3Phase 7 starting point: the trustworthy harness, before any tuningcommit 5cc5ba4 · image, 3 reps build · overall 0.76× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
21,892173 µs
28,720122 µs
227
0.76×96× Rails
3,885453 µs
6,500142 µs
111
0.60×35× Rails
Messages page
23,346161 µs
30,230114 µs
390
0.77×60× Rails
4,227449 µs
6,981136 µs
209
0.61×20× Rails
Sidebar
18,888200 µs
28,378123 µs
581
0.67×32× Rails
3,837443 µs
6,366146 µs
268
0.60×14× Rails
Search
20,026184 µs
26,606124 µs
410
0.75×49× Rails
3,990468 µs
5,638158 µs
189
0.71×21× Rails
Post a message
6,046549 µs
7,140389 µs
310
0.85×19× Rails
1,958998 µs
2,814399 µs
160
0.70×12× Rails
What was done
Unit 7.0 rebuilt the measuring before anyone optimized: container logs capped, every route warmed for at least 30 s until flat within 3%, the host's pinned CPUs probed before each window, CPU per request from the container's cgroup, and bench/quick for Rust and F# only. Rust was measured here once more, and these Rust medians are the stored reference every later dot compares against.
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 11:58 EDT · database · tier 2statements through SQLitePCLRaw (prepare once, bind by index, columns by ordinal) instead of Microsoft.Data.Sqlite commandscommit 5d2a8aa · mounted build · overall 0.81× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
21,892173 µs
28,720122 µs
227
0.76×96× Rails
3,885453 µs
6,500142 µs
111
0.60×35× Rails
Messages page
23,346161 µs
30,230114 µs
390
0.77×60× Rails
4,227449 µs
6,981136 µs
209
0.61×20× Rails
Sidebar
23,107162 µs
28,378123 µs
581
0.81×40× Rails
3,909449 µs
6,366146 µs
268
0.61×15× Rails
Search
23,082159 µs
26,606124 µs
410
0.87×56× Rails
4,158454 µs
5,638158 µs
189
0.74×22× Rails
Post a message
6,046549 µs
7,140389 µs
310
0.85×19× Rails
1,958998 µs
2,814399 µs
160
0.70×12× Rails
What was done
5d2a8aa Db: run statements through SQLitePCLRaw instead of Microsoft.Data.Sqlite commands
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 12:18 EDT · database · tier 2no per-connection or memstatus mutex, direct C-API calls for rows and binds, timestamps parsed from UTF-8 bytescommit b7f020f · mounted build · overall 0.94× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
25,851141 µs
28,720122 µs
227
0.90×114× Rails
3,885453 µs
6,500142 µs
111
0.60×35× Rails
Messages page
28,704126 µs
30,230114 µs
390
0.95×74× Rails
4,227449 µs
6,981136 µs
209
0.61×20× Rails
Sidebar
24,993151 µs
28,378123 µs
581
0.88×43× Rails
3,909449 µs
6,366146 µs
268
0.61×15× Rails
Search
26,034146 µs
26,606124 µs
410
0.98×63× Rails
4,158454 µs
5,638158 µs
189
0.74×22× Rails
Post a message
6,940467 µs
7,140389 µs
310
0.97×22× Rails
1,933990 µs
2,814399 µs
160
0.69×12× Rails
What was done
286c2ca Db: SQLite without the per-connection and memory-statistics mutexes
b7f020f Db: call the hot SQLite functions directly, and read timestamps from the bytes SQLite holds
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 12:24 EDT · database · tier 2a read that found a free connection returns without Task.Yield (no cross-thread hand-off per read)commit 15b1376 · mounted build · overall 0.96× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
27,240141 µs
28,720122 µs
227
0.95×120× Rails
5,405264 µs
6,500142 µs
111
0.83×49× Rails
Messages page
28,704126 µs
30,230114 µs
390
0.95×74× Rails
4,227449 µs
6,981136 µs
209
0.61×20× Rails
Sidebar
26,888143 µs
28,378123 µs
581
0.95×46× Rails
5,175275 µs
6,366146 µs
268
0.81×19× Rails
Search
26,034146 µs
26,606124 µs
410
0.98×63× Rails
4,158454 µs
5,638158 µs
189
0.74×22× Rails
Post a message
6,940467 µs
7,140389 µs
310
0.97×22× Rails
1,933990 µs
2,814399 µs
160
0.69×12× Rails
What was done
15b1376 Db: a read that found a free connection returns its result without yielding (experiment)
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 13:17 EDT · database · tier 3unit 7.1 database path: image rebuilt from HEAD, five workloads at c=1 and c=16, 3 repscommit df6ffd9 · sha256:5b3be84342fe build · overall 1.00× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
28,328136 µs
28,720122 µs
227
0.99×125× Rails
5,589258 µs
6,500142 µs
111
0.86×50× Rails
Messages page
31,066124 µs
30,230114 µs
390
1.03×80× Rails
6,096243 µs
6,981136 µs
209
0.87×29× Rails
Sidebar
27,356142 µs
28,378123 µs
581
0.96×47× Rails
5,177278 µs
6,366146 µs
268
0.81×19× Rails
Search
27,801134 µs
26,606124 µs
410
1.04×68× Rails
4,855364 µs
5,638158 µs
189
0.86×26× Rails
Post a message
7,004452 µs
7,140389 µs
310
0.98×23× Rails
2,328783 µs
2,814399 µs
160
0.83×15× Rails
What was done
c9964b3 Db: find a cached statement by a hash of its length and sixteen characters, and build the row list without an enumerator
d7ce54c Db: say why a read no longer yields
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 15:18 EDT · runtime · tier 2allocation cuts: gzip written into the pipe, to_i fast path, key buffer reuse, assetPath and preload-link memo (room 146 to 113 KB per request)commit 2e0f663 · mounted build · overall 0.98× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
28,701117 µs
28,720122 µs
227
1.00×126× Rails
5,589258 µs
6,500142 µs
111
0.86×50× Rails
Messages page
30,267110 µs
30,230114 µs
390
1.00×78× Rails
6,096243 µs
6,981136 µs
209
0.87×29× Rails
Sidebar
27,012129 µs
28,378123 µs
581
0.95×46× Rails
5,177278 µs
6,366146 µs
268
0.81×19× Rails
Search
25,864129 µs
26,606124 µs
410
0.97×63× Rails
4,855364 µs
5,638158 µs
189
0.86×26× Rails
Post a message
7,004452 µs
7,140389 µs
310
0.98×23× Rails
2,328783 µs
2,814399 µs
160
0.83×15× Rails
What was done
2e0f663 Cut per-request allocation on the page paths (146 to 113 KB room, 121 to 82 KB messages)
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 16:11 EDT · runtime · tier 2A/B: default spin limit on the new image, run Bcommit 0e564f3 · sha256:9e87cfde74c3 build · overall 1.03× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
28,701117 µs
28,720122 µs
227
1.00×126× Rails
5,589258 µs
6,500142 µs
111
0.86×50× Rails
Messages page
33,771113 µs
30,230114 µs
390
1.12×87× Rails
6,096243 µs
6,981136 µs
209
0.87×29× Rails
Sidebar
27,012129 µs
28,378123 µs
581
0.95×46× Rails
5,177278 µs
6,366146 µs
268
0.81×19× Rails
Search
29,233131 µs
26,606124 µs
410
1.10×71× Rails
4,855364 µs
5,638158 µs
189
0.86×26× Rails
Post a message
7,004452 µs
7,140389 µs
310
0.98×23× Rails
2,328783 µs
2,814399 µs
160
0.83×15× Rails
What was done
dcb8032 Ship the runtime settings of unit 7.2: no thread-pool spinning, a 64 MiB gen0 budget; hoist sanitizeTags' allowlist
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 16:50 EDT · runtime · tier 3unit 7.2 runtime: image rebuilt from HEAD with the 64MB gen0 budget and the allocation cuts, five workloads at c=1 and c=16, 3 repscommit 1d0f3b2 · sha256:e316ad01e8ed build · overall 1.05× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
30,672124 µs
28,720122 µs
227
1.07×135× Rails
5,654252 µs
6,500142 µs
111
0.87×51× Rails
Messages page
33,229116 µs
30,230114 µs
390
1.10×85× Rails
6,293229 µs
6,981136 µs
209
0.90×30× Rails
Sidebar
28,192135 µs
28,378123 µs
581
0.99×48× Rails
5,336266 µs
6,366146 µs
268
0.84×20× Rails
Search
28,713128 µs
26,606124 µs
410
1.08×70× Rails
4,695375 µs
5,638158 µs
189
0.83×25× Rails
Post a message
7,186441 µs
7,140389 µs
310
1.01×23× Rails
2,275809 µs
2,814399 µs
160
0.81×14× Rails
What was done
b31452b Do not ship DOTNET_ThreadPool_UnfairSemaphoreSpinLimit=0: it costs messages and search 10-14% at c=16
1d0f3b2 Dockerfile: say only what was measured about the gen0 budget
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 17:54 EDT · crypto-logging · tier 2keyed HMAC and AES state per thread, hand parsers for the expiry and the cookie envelope, remembered avatar tokens and stream names (crypto half, c=16)commit a696844 · mounted build · overall 1.11× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
33,436112 µs
28,720122 µs
227
1.16×147× Rails
5,654252 µs
6,500142 µs
111
0.87×51× Rails
Messages page
33,229116 µs
30,230114 µs
390
1.10×85× Rails
6,293229 µs
6,981136 µs
209
0.90×30× Rails
Sidebar
33,614114 µs
28,378123 µs
581
1.18×58× Rails
5,336266 µs
6,366146 µs
268
0.84×20× Rails
Search
29,413129 µs
26,606124 µs
410
1.11×72× Rails
4,695375 µs
5,638158 µs
189
0.83×25× Rails
Post a message
7,186441 µs
7,140389 µs
310
1.01×23× Rails
2,275809 µs
2,814399 µs
160
0.81×14× Rails
What was done
af0ced4 Stamp each logged run with the commit its build came from
a696844 Cache keyed HMAC and AES state per thread, parse envelopes without the regex or JSON parser, remember avatar tokens
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 17:55 EDT · crypto-logging · tier 2both halves at one connection (c=1)commit 0b67670 · mounted build · overall 1.20× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
39,42496 µs
28,720122 µs
227
1.37×174× Rails
7,405213 µs
6,500142 µs
111
1.14×67× Rails
Messages page
33,229116 µs
30,230114 µs
390
1.10×85× Rails
6,293229 µs
6,981136 µs
209
0.90×30× Rails
Sidebar
38,35999 µs
28,378123 µs
581
1.35×66× Rails
7,612192 µs
6,366146 µs
268
1.20×28× Rails
Search
32,737114 µs
26,606124 µs
410
1.23×80× Rails
5,820327 µs
5,638158 µs
189
1.03×31× Rails
Post a message
7,186441 µs
7,140389 µs
310
1.01×23× Rails
2,275809 µs
2,814399 µs
160
0.81×14× Rails
What was done
0b67670 Write the request log line as UTF-8 into a batch instead of through ILogger
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 18:42 EDT · crypto-logging · tier 3unit 7.3 crypto-logging: image rebuilt from HEAD with keyed HMAC/AES state, hand parsers, token memo and the batched request log, five workloads at c=1 and c=16, 3 repscommit b1d55bf · sha256:53ce6520c2c2 build · overall 1.26× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
38,60698 µs
28,720122 µs
227
1.34×170× Rails
7,524210 µs
6,500142 µs
111
1.16×68× Rails
Messages page
37,933102 µs
30,230114 µs
390
1.25×97× Rails
8,112200 µs
6,981136 µs
209
1.16×39× Rails
Sidebar
36,659104 µs
28,378123 µs
581
1.29×63× Rails
7,690188 µs
6,366146 µs
268
1.21×29× Rails
Search
33,798108 µs
26,606124 µs
410
1.27×82× Rails
5,837322 µs
5,638158 µs
189
1.04×31× Rails
Post a message
8,108396 µs
7,140389 µs
310
1.14×26× Rails
2,727697 µs
2,814399 µs
160
0.97×17× Rails
What was done
No code change since the previous dot (a measurement only).
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 18:51 EDT · post · tier 2default host no longer watches the content root for appsettings changes (File Watch thread and lstat), post c=16 and c=1, 1 repcommit bc80d28 · mounted build · overall 1.28× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
38,60698 µs
28,720122 µs
227
1.34×170× Rails
7,524210 µs
6,500142 µs
111
1.16×68× Rails
Messages page
37,933102 µs
30,230114 µs
390
1.25×97× Rails
8,112200 µs
6,981136 µs
209
1.16×39× Rails
Sidebar
36,659104 µs
28,378123 µs
581
1.29×63× Rails
7,690188 µs
6,366146 µs
268
1.21×29× Rails
Search
33,798108 µs
26,606124 µs
410
1.27×82× Rails
5,837322 µs
5,638158 µs
189
1.04×31× Rails
Post a message
8,796358 µs
7,140389 µs
310
1.23×28× Rails
2,949647 µs
2,814399 µs
160
1.05×18× Rails
What was done
bc80d28 Front: do not watch the content root for appsettings changes
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 19:14 EDT · post · tier 2 · revertedgzip a post answer (9 KB of HTML) and splice pieces through the zlib shim with a window that fits, no dictionary for a short tail: no gain beyond noise, revertedcommit 5c23899 · mounted build · overall 1.28× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
38,60698 µs
28,720122 µs
227
1.34×170× Rails
7,524210 µs
6,500142 µs
111
1.16×68× Rails
Messages page
37,933102 µs
30,230114 µs
390
1.25×97× Rails
8,112200 µs
6,981136 µs
209
1.16×39× Rails
Sidebar
36,659104 µs
28,378123 µs
581
1.29×63× Rails
7,690188 µs
6,366146 µs
268
1.21×29× Rails
Search
33,798108 µs
26,606124 µs
410
1.27×82× Rails
5,837322 µs
5,638158 µs
189
1.04×31× Rails
Post a message
8,852356 µs
7,140389 µs
310
1.24×29× Rails
2,985644 µs
2,814399 µs
160
1.06×19× Rails
What was done
5c23899 Deflate small gzip bodies and splice pieces through the zlib shim; no dictionary for a short tail after a fragment
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 19:17 EDT · post · tier 2control for the identity body work: the 416 KB room page with Accept-Encoding: identity at c=16 on the unchanged build (identity numbers are logged under room_show_identity; the chart does not show them)commit 5bb1dd5 · mounted build · overall 1.28× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
38,60698 µs
28,720122 µs
227
1.34×170× Rails
7,524210 µs
6,500142 µs
111
1.16×68× Rails
Messages page
37,933102 µs
30,230114 µs
390
1.25×97× Rails
8,112200 µs
6,981136 µs
209
1.16×39× Rails
Sidebar
36,659104 µs
28,378123 µs
581
1.29×63× Rails
7,690188 µs
6,366146 µs
268
1.21×29× Rails
Search
33,798108 µs
26,606124 µs
410
1.27×82× Rails
5,837322 µs
5,638158 µs
189
1.04×31× Rails
Post a message
8,796358 µs
7,140389 µs
310
1.23×28× Rails
2,949647 µs
2,814399 µs
160
1.05×18× Rails
What was done
5c23899 Deflate small gzip bodies and splice pieces through the zlib shim; no dictionary for a short tail after a fragment
f18616d Revert "Deflate small gzip bodies and splice pieces through the zlib shim"
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 19:40 EDT · post · tier 2A/B in one build: Kestrel's own 4 KB blocks (CAMPFIRE_NO_CONN_POOL, mean of 2), identity room page c=16commit dcb5ffa · mounted build · overall 1.28× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
38,60698 µs
28,720122 µs
227
1.34×170× Rails
7,524210 µs
6,500142 µs
111
1.16×68× Rails
Messages page
37,933102 µs
30,230114 µs
390
1.25×97× Rails
8,112200 µs
6,981136 µs
209
1.16×39× Rails
Sidebar
36,659104 µs
28,378123 µs
581
1.29×63× Rails
7,690188 µs
6,366146 µs
268
1.21×29× Rails
Search
33,798108 µs
26,606124 µs
410
1.27×82× Rails
5,837322 µs
5,638158 µs
189
1.04×31× Rails
Post a message
8,796358 µs
7,140389 µs
310
1.23×28× Rails
2,949647 µs
2,814399 µs
160
1.05×18× Rails
What was done
dcb5ffa Kestrel connection pipes get 64 KB segments for large bodies
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 20:02 EDT · post · tier 2control for the post path A/B: file watching off, nothing else (mean of 3 alternating runs, c=16)commit 3b88200 · mounted build · overall 1.28× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
38,60698 µs
28,720122 µs
227
1.34×170× Rails
7,524210 µs
6,500142 µs
111
1.16×68× Rails
Messages page
37,933102 µs
30,230114 µs
390
1.25×97× Rails
8,112200 µs
6,981136 µs
209
1.16×39× Rails
Sidebar
36,659104 µs
28,378123 µs
581
1.29×63× Rails
7,690188 µs
6,366146 µs
268
1.21×29× Rails
Search
33,798108 µs
26,606124 µs
410
1.27×82× Rails
5,837322 µs
5,638158 µs
189
1.04×31× Rails
Post a message
8,747357 µs
7,140389 µs
310
1.22×28× Rails
2,949647 µs
2,814399 µs
160
1.05×18× Rails
What was done
f849119 Revert "Kestrel connection pipes get 64 KB segments for large bodies"
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 20:02 EDT · post · tier 2message partial broadcast as UTF-8 (no string), unread ping encoded once, no body parse for mentions when there is no attachment (mean of 3 alternating runs, c=16; allocation 183.6 to 154.1 KB per post)commit 571d25a · mounted build · overall 1.28× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
38,60698 µs
28,720122 µs
227
1.34×170× Rails
7,524210 µs
6,500142 µs
111
1.16×68× Rails
Messages page
37,933102 µs
30,230114 µs
390
1.25×97× Rails
8,112200 µs
6,981136 µs
209
1.16×39× Rails
Sidebar
36,659104 µs
28,378123 µs
581
1.29×63× Rails
7,690188 µs
6,366146 µs
268
1.21×29× Rails
Search
33,798108 µs
26,606124 µs
410
1.27×82× Rails
5,837322 µs
5,638158 µs
189
1.04×31× Rails
Post a message
9,034349 µs
7,140389 µs
310
1.27×29× Rails
2,949647 µs
2,814399 µs
160
1.05×18× Rails
What was done
571d25a Post path: broadcast the message partial as UTF-8, encode the unread ping once, skip parsing bodies with no attachments for mentions
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 20:49 EDT · post · tier 3unit 7.4 post and remaining paths: image rebuilt from HEAD with file watching off and the post-path cuts (UTF-8 message broadcast, one unread ping encoding, no mention parse without attachments), five workloads at c=1 and c=16, 3 repscommit 3e321ac · sha256:052d89880648 build · overall 1.28× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
37,726101 µs
28,720122 µs
227
1.31×166× Rails
7,462211 µs
6,500142 µs
111
1.15×67× Rails
Messages page
38,174100 µs
30,230114 µs
390
1.26×98× Rails
8,238199 µs
6,981136 µs
209
1.18×39× Rails
Sidebar
37,900101 µs
28,378123 µs
581
1.34×65× Rails
7,822186 µs
6,366146 µs
268
1.23×29× Rails
Search
33,565109 µs
26,606124 µs
410
1.26×82× Rails
5,814325 µs
5,638158 µs
189
1.03×31× Rails
Post a message
8,892353 µs
7,140389 µs
310
1.25×29× Rails
3,060631 µs
2,814399 µs
160
1.09×19× Rails
What was done
No code change since the previous dot (a measurement only).
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Tue 6 Oct, 21:52 EDT · post · tier 2verifier fixes: long binds keep the GC transition, mention parse skipped only for bodies of <=800 units, console never coloured (mean of 2 alternating runs; control below)commit 69dc486 · mounted build · overall 1.28× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
37,726101 µs
28,720122 µs
227
1.31×166× Rails
7,462211 µs
6,500142 µs
111
1.15×67× Rails
Messages page
38,174100 µs
30,230114 µs
390
1.26×98× Rails
8,238199 µs
6,981136 µs
209
1.18×39× Rails
Sidebar
37,900101 µs
28,378123 µs
581
1.34×65× Rails
7,822186 µs
6,366146 µs
268
1.23×29× Rails
Search
34,017108 µs
26,606124 µs
410
1.28×83× Rails
5,906322 µs
5,638158 µs
189
1.05×31× Rails
Post a message
8,784354 µs
7,140389 µs
310
1.23×28× Rails
3,006637 µs
2,814399 µs
160
1.07×19× Rails
What was done
69dc486 Phase 7 verifier fixes: no console colour, mention parse skipped only for bodies that cannot fail, long binds keep the GC transition
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Wed 7 Oct, 02:37 EDT · final · tier 3Phase 7 area-end re-baseline: bench/run --apps reference,rust,fsharp --reps 3, all suites, c=1/16/64, image 82ebcbc734ec from c3e0eca; Rust re-measured (within 1% of the stored baseline). Room page c=16 median 40,422 is ~6% above steady state: 2 of 3 reps settled before the thread pool grew; 90-150 s runs read ~38,000 (100 us/req)commit c3e0eca · sha256:82ebcbc734ec build · overall 1.30× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
40,42294 µs
28,720122 µs
227
1.41×178× Rails
7,617209 µs
6,500142 µs
111
1.17×69× Rails
Messages page
37,836102 µs
30,230114 µs
390
1.25×97× Rails
8,312199 µs
6,981136 µs
209
1.19×40× Rails
Sidebar
37,555102 µs
28,378123 µs
581
1.32×65× Rails
8,000181 µs
6,366146 µs
268
1.26×30× Rails
Search
34,070107 µs
26,606124 µs
410
1.28×83× Rails
6,055315 µs
5,638158 µs
189
1.07×32× Rails
Post a message
8,905353 µs
7,140389 µs
310
1.25×29× Rails
3,052629 µs
2,814399 µs
160
1.08×19× Rails
What was done
No code change since the previous dot (a measurement only).
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.Wed 7 Oct, 04:46 EDT · threadpool · tier 3DOTNET_HillClimbing_Disable=1 in the image (59ee9ae), 3 reps, F# onlycommit 2e6c08e · sha256:421f335c3ff8 build · overall 1.32× of Rust
16 connections
1 connection
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
F#
Rust
Rails
F#/Rust
Room page
39,14491 µs
28,720122 µs
227
1.36×172× Rails
7,391209 µs
6,500142 µs
111
1.14×67× Rails
Messages page
42,14484 µs
30,230114 µs
390
1.39×108× Rails
8,115202 µs
6,981136 µs
209
1.16×39× Rails
Sidebar
37,81495 µs
28,378123 µs
581
1.33×65× Rails
7,752185 µs
6,366146 µs
268
1.22×29× Rails
Search
34,002108 µs
26,606124 µs
410
1.28×83× Rails
5,841326 µs
5,638158 µs
189
1.04×31× Rails
Post a message
8,738358 µs
7,140389 µs
310
1.22×28× Rails
2,976645 µs
2,814399 µs
160
1.06×19× Rails
What was done
59ee9ae Unit 7.5: disable thread-pool hill climbing in the image
Requests per second, CPU µs per request beneath. Rust is the stored Phase 7 starting point. Rails is the 5b baseline (3 reps), the last time it ran; it doesn't change. Greyed F# values were carried from an earlier run.
The climb. F#'s throughput as a share of Rust's, one dot per measured run (geometric mean of the five workloads, 16 connections). Hover, tap or tab to a dot for that run's numbers and what changed. Hollow grey dots were tried and reverted. Latest: Wed 7 Oct, 04:46 EDT.How to read it →
(btw, Muse sucks)How this started, and why none of its numbers are on the chart.
Same pixelsOne screenshot, because the three are one: Rails', Rust's and F#'s captures of this page are byte-identical.
Same pixels, different engines · the room page
Same software.
Railsslowthe original
239requests a secondserved while you watch, at 239 a second
Rustfast120× Rails
28,623requests a secondserved while you watch, at 28,623 a second
F#faster1.41× Rust · 169× Rails
40,422requests a secondserved while you watch, at 40,422 a second
Each counter ticks at that engine's measured rate for this page, signed in, at 16 connections.How we know →
By the numbers · counted from the transcripts, git and the logs, not estimated
All ~63,000177 routes, Action Cable, Web Push, bots and attachments; the Muse app was 713 lines. lines of the Rust port, translated module by module in six gated phases: 996 tests at the last gate, none failing.
SecondsTier 1: In-process A/B micro-benchmarks and the affected tests; SageFs hot reload and live tests optional. Decides: which variant to try.
MinutesTier 2: dotnet publish, mounted into the existing container (no image rebuild), F#-only quick bench against the stored Rust numbers. Decides: whether we're happy with the area.
About an hourTier 3: Rebuild the image; bench/run with Rust and Rails; bin/verify, the differentials and a parity smoke. Decides: the number that gets reported.
A change of process · 6 Oct 08:13
Rust became a fixed target.
F# measured alone against stored Rust numbers, in loops of seconds, minutes and an hour. That's why the dots come fast.
The same Campfire, pixel for pixel: 944 of 944 screenshots equal to Rails. onCrack was forked from this port, with the "same work as Rust" constraint dropped: caches, group commit, and a Cable layer that keeps every client.
The line is the geometric mean of F#'s throughput over Rust's across the five benchmarked workloads (room page, messages page, sidebar, search, post a message) at 16 connections. Dots are spaced evenly in the order they ran, not by the clock. A dot that measured only some workloads carries the rest from the last kept run; its card greys them.
Read with care
Most tuning dots are provisional. Tier 2 runs are one rep of only the workloads a change touches, on a published build mounted into the existing container. The number that gets reported is tier 3: a rebuilt image, three reps, every workload.
Rust is a stored reference. From the Phase 7 start on, Rust's numbers are its medians from that run (bench/results/phase7-start/), not re-measured each time; Rust and Rails are re-run at the re-baseline that closes the phase.
The first two dots are different methods. The Phase 5 dot is a rough wrk check through Docker's published port; the 5b baseline is bench/run with Rust in the same run, before the longer warm-up the Phase 7 harness added.
Rails is in the cards only. Its numbers are the 5b baseline; at 1 to 2%% of Rust's throughput it would sit flat on the floor of the chart.
The Muse-era ratios are off the chart on purpose: those pages were not the same as Rust's. (btw, Muse sucks) →
Every dot, oldest first
EDT
Unit
Change
× Rust
Kept
6 Oct 01:00
phase 5
First whole-app run: the F# port boots and serves all five workloads
0.76×
kept
6 Oct 03:16
baseline
Whole-app baseline: bench/run, Rails vs Rust vs F#, 3 reps
0.79×
kept
6 Oct 10:25
phase 7 start
Phase 7 starting point: the trustworthy harness, before any tuning
0.76×
kept
6 Oct 11:58
database
statements through SQLitePCLRaw (prepare once, bind by index, columns by ordinal) instead of Microsoft.Data.Sqlite commands
0.81×
kept
6 Oct 12:18
database
no per-connection or memstatus mutex, direct C-API calls for rows and binds, timestamps parsed from UTF-8 bytes
0.94×
kept
6 Oct 12:24
database
a read that found a free connection returns without Task.Yield (no cross-thread hand-off per read)
0.96×
kept
6 Oct 13:17
database
unit 7.1 database path: image rebuilt from HEAD, five workloads at c=1 and c=16, 3 reps
1.00×
kept
6 Oct 15:18
runtime
allocation cuts: gzip written into the pipe, to_i fast path, key buffer reuse, assetPath and preload-link memo (room 146 to 113 KB per request)
0.98×
kept
6 Oct 16:11
runtime
A/B: default spin limit on the new image, run B
1.03×
kept
6 Oct 16:50
runtime
unit 7.2 runtime: image rebuilt from HEAD with the 64MB gen0 budget and the allocation cuts, five workloads at c=1 and c=16, 3 reps
1.05×
kept
6 Oct 17:54
crypto-logging
keyed HMAC and AES state per thread, hand parsers for the expiry and the cookie envelope, remembered avatar tokens and stream names (crypto half, c=16)
1.11×
kept
6 Oct 17:55
crypto-logging
both halves at one connection (c=1)
1.20×
kept
6 Oct 18:42
crypto-logging
unit 7.3 crypto-logging: image rebuilt from HEAD with keyed HMAC/AES state, hand parsers, token memo and the batched request log, five workloads at c=1 and c=16, 3 reps
1.26×
kept
6 Oct 18:51
post
default host no longer watches the content root for appsettings changes (File Watch thread and lstat), post c=16 and c=1, 1 rep
1.28×
kept
6 Oct 19:14
post
gzip a post answer (9 KB of HTML) and splice pieces through the zlib shim with a window that fits, no dictionary for a short tail: no gain beyond noise, reverted
1.28×
reverted
6 Oct 19:17
post
control for the identity body work: the 416 KB room page with Accept-Encoding: identity at c=16 on the unchanged build (identity numbers are logged under room_show_identity; the chart does not show them)
1.28×
kept
6 Oct 19:40
post
A/B in one build: Kestrel's own 4 KB blocks (CAMPFIRE_NO_CONN_POOL, mean of 2), identity room page c=16
1.28×
kept
6 Oct 20:02
post
control for the post path A/B: file watching off, nothing else (mean of 3 alternating runs, c=16)
1.28×
kept
6 Oct 20:02
post
message partial broadcast as UTF-8 (no string), unread ping encoded once, no body parse for mentions when there is no attachment (mean of 3 alternating runs, c=16; allocation 183.6 to 154.1 KB per post)
1.28×
kept
6 Oct 20:49
post
unit 7.4 post and remaining paths: image rebuilt from HEAD with file watching off and the post-path cuts (UTF-8 message broadcast, one unread ping encoding, no mention parse without attachments), five workloads at c=1 and c=16, 3 reps
1.28×
kept
6 Oct 21:52
post
verifier fixes: long binds keep the GC transition, mention parse skipped only for bodies of <=800 units, console never coloured (mean of 2 alternating runs; control below)
1.28×
kept
7 Oct 02:37
final
Phase 7 area-end re-baseline: bench/run --apps reference,rust,fsharp --reps 3, all suites, c=1/16/64, image 82ebcbc734ec from c3e0eca; Rust re-measured (within 1% of the stored baseline). Room page c=16 median 40,422 is ~6% above steady state: 2 of 3 reps settled before the thread pool grew; 90-150 s runs read ~38,000 (100 us/req)
1.30×
kept
7 Oct 04:46
threadpool
DOTNET_HillClimbing_Disable=1 in the image (59ee9ae), 3 reps, F# only
1.32×
kept
Source: bench/results/phase7-log.jsonl, bench/progress/history.json, drawn by bench/progress/climb.py.
All Talk, the busy room (131 messages), signed in as David: the page the room_show benchmark requests. Each picture is the parity harness's own capture of that page from one app: Chromium, 1440×900, light scheme, the default seed with the clock frozen, so nothing on the page depends on when it ran.
Railsparity/out/p6-r-default/referencepass vs Rails · PNG ac7420e6d0a8…
Rustparity/out/p6-r-default/candidatepass vs Rails · PNG ac7420e6d0a8…
F#parity/out/p6-f-default/candidatepass vs Rails · PNG ac7420e6d0a8…
Same pixels, checked. The three 1440×900 PNGs are byte-identical (SHA-256 ac7420e6d0a89414…), and decoding them gives the same pixels (SHA-256 of the RGB data 3c57af02305d5b10…). The thumbnails above are made one from each app's own capture, resized to 640×400, lossless; they come out the same bytes too, which site/build.py checks on every build before it shows the badge. The big screenshot on the page is the Rails capture at full size, lossless, so it is the F# and Rust pixels as well.
Rails and Rust come from one run (PARITY_CANDIDATE_APP=rust parity/bin/candidate compare), Rails and F# from another (the default candidate), state rooms/show/busy/last_page, cell chromium-desktop-light. A pass means every layer the harness compares, pixels, server HTML, live DOM, accessibility tree, network and Cable, equal to Rails. Made by site/same_pixels.py.
The counters
Each counter adds its engine's median requests a second for this page at 16 connections, for every second the section is on screen, and its row of dots moves at a speed in the same proportion. After ten seconds Rails has served about 2,393 and F# about 404,223. Without JavaScript, or with reduced motion, they show the rates and nothing moves.
Room page, requests a second: median [min–max] of 3 reps
Connections
Rails
Rust
F#
F# / Rust
F# / Rails
1
107 [103–111]
6,481 [6,438–6,500]
7,617 [7,583–7,662]
1.18×
71×
16
239 [238–241]
28,623 [28,510–28,701]
40,422 [38,482–40,429]
1.41×
169×
64
222 [214–226]
29,072 [28,652–29,223]
36,654 [36,543–37,859]
1.26×
165×
Signed in as David, keep-alive, gzip, 8-second runs after a warm-up that waits for each app to settle. The app ran on CPUs 0-3, the load generator on 4-7, inside the colima Linux VM. Source: bench/results/phase7-final/report.md, the Phase 7 re-baseline with all three apps in the same run.
Summed from the transcripts Claude Code wrote, once per API call, for the orchestrating session, all 47 workflow agents and the page agents. Nothing here is estimated. As of 7 Oct 05:19 EDT.
1.51 Btokens processed
1,507,864,763. Cache reads are 97.2% of it: each turn re-reads the agent's context from the prompt cache.
42.9 Mfresh tokens
42,941,267: uncached input, cache writes and output. What was new to the model on each call.
1.2 Mwritten by models
Output across 5,000 API calls: code, tests, reports, commit messages.
Processed
input + cache writes + cache reads + output, over every API call. The fullest measure of work done.
Fresh
the same without cache reads, which are cheap and repetitive. Closer to new work.
Final context
each agent's context on its last call. The workflow harness's per-phase figure is this, summed; it lands within a few dozen tokens of ours. It measures how big the contexts grew, not how much was processed.
Tokens processedLinear scale. The orchestrator ran the whole time.Fresh tokensCache reads left out, so the new work shows.
Cache writes
Output
Uncached input
Reconciliation with the workflow harness (gap = harness minus our sum of final contexts)
Workflow
Agents
Ran
Harness figure
Final contexts
Gap
Fresh
Processed
Phase 1: Foundations
5
48 min
956,748
956,630
+118
931,971
30,998,625
Phase 2: Data and content
6
2h 34m
2,200,059
2,199,974
+85
2,318,340
170,253,507
Phase 3: HTTP and real time
6
5h 14m
2,753,273
2,753,163
+110
3,707,468
335,881,691
Phase 4: Views
6
2h 03m
1,990,241
1,990,166
+75
1,996,525
151,656,546
Phase 5: App
7
3h 59m
3,000,118
3,000,061
+57
3,463,639
306,615,587
Phase 5b: Baseline
2
4h 55m
–
751,586
–
4,566,683
62,895,050
Phase 7: Unit 7.0, the harness
1
3h 15m
–
353,843
–
4,806,449
30,432,891
Phase 7: Tuning
7
15h 24m
–
1,976,950
–
14,059,316
163,307,179
Phase 6: Parity
5
1h 03m
–
372,007
–
674,073
10,896,149
Phase 7: Unit 7.5, threads
2
1h 33m
–
180,709
–
776,136
4,801,249
By role (workflow agents)
Agents
API calls
Processed
Fresh
Output
Builders
15
2,129
881.1 M
9.8 M
465,975
Verifiers
7
538
88.6 M
2.2 M
26,131
Fixers
9
357
34.8 M
1.1 M
29,475
Re-verifiers
5
147
11.4 M
455 K
11,290
Bench
1
186
57.0 M
4.1 M
57,256
Reviewers
1
41
5.9 M
514 K
11,674
By model (everything, the orchestrator and page agents included)
Agents
API calls
Processed
Fresh
Output
Opus 5.5
19 + orchestrator
1,598
368.5 M
12.1 M
589,350
Sonnet 5.5
30
3,402
1.1 B
30.8 M
591,234
The orchestrating session, split where its job changed
Orchestrator window
From
Calls
Processed
Fresh
Hand-over and M4 rebaseline
5 Oct 10:47
69
5,991,537
134,717
Decisions, colima, scaffold (Phase 0)
5 Oct 11:29
45
8,135,638
159,581
Orchestrating Phases 1 to 5: gates, reports, cleanup
5 Oct 12:08
120
38,411,149
1,810,065
Phase 5b baseline, watched
6 Oct 03:01
7
2,996,242
420,477
Commissioning this page
6 Oct 06:43
15
6,774,184
52,007
Phase 7: launching, re-planning, watching the climb
6 Oct 07:58
223
139,172,213
2,264,736
All 47 workflow agents
Phase
Agent
Model
Ran
Calls
Processed
Fresh
Final context
Phase 1
build:ruby+rails_compat+routes
Sonnet 5.5
19 min
60
11,758,573
289,193
285,186
Phase 1
build:assets
Sonnet 5.5
9 min
36
4,826,458
170,028
186,794
Phase 1
verify:phase1
Opus 5.5
9 min
54
9,847,211
294,969
291,149
Phase 1
fix:phase1
Sonnet 5.5
3 min
32
2,312,233
93,735
91,634
Phase 1
reverify:phase1
Opus 5.5
4 min
27
2,254,150
84,046
101,867
Phase 2
build:db
Sonnet 5.5
41 min
136
53,533,957
576,425
570,951
Phase 2
build:richtext
Sonnet 5.5
55 min
137
65,903,331
861,000
742,867
Phase 2
build:storage
Sonnet 5.5
34 min
114
29,924,940
395,184
407,759
Phase 2
verify:phase2
Opus 5.5
12 min
90
15,606,097
281,175
277,388
Phase 2
fix:phase2
Sonnet 5.5
7 min
48
4,391,595
131,103
128,147
Phase 2
reverify:phase2
Opus 5.5
1 min
15
893,587
73,453
72,862
Phase 3
build:kit-core
Sonnet 5.5
1h 50m
283
168,554,483
1,085,595
950,421
Phase 3
build:kit-front
Sonnet 5.5
1h 13m
189
86,461,096
687,391
690,057
Phase 3
build:cable
Sonnet 5.5
1h 46m
168
58,407,391
1,354,244
544,299
Phase 3
verify:phase3
Opus 5.5
8 min
62
11,557,581
309,596
304,620
Phase 3
fix:phase3
Sonnet 5.5
12 min
82
9,560,654
184,074
179,893
Phase 3
reverify:phase3
Opus 5.5
2 min
20
1,340,486
86,568
83,873
Phase 4
build:views-foundations
Sonnet 5.5
46 min
172
70,481,173
641,760
635,264
Phase 4
build:views-hot
Sonnet 5.5
27 min
99
30,094,981
466,353
461,405
Phase 4
build:views-rest
Sonnet 5.5
20 min
104
28,679,757
383,428
397,506
Phase 4
verify:phase4
Opus 5.5
8 min
74
11,577,723
232,117
229,546
Phase 4
fix:phase4
Sonnet 5.5
15 min
70
8,497,328
171,797
168,394
Phase 4
reverify:phase4
Opus 5.5
5 min
30
2,325,584
101,070
98,051
Phase 5
build:boot+image
Sonnet 5.5
53 min
200
110,610,517
923,041
853,586
Phase 5
build:account-controllers
Sonnet 5.5
31 min
151
57,413,271
581,475
569,440
Phase 5
build:hot-controllers
Sonnet 5.5
38 min
125
39,448,470
824,988
448,987
Phase 5
build:channels+integrations
Sonnet 5.5
45 min
155
65,027,722
585,132
596,743
Phase 5
verify:phase5
Opus 5.5
42 min
141
25,487,317
301,765
295,313
Phase 5
fix:phase5
Sonnet 5.5
8 min
44
4,026,855
137,163
129,859
Phase 5
reverify:phase5
Opus 5.5
18 min
55
4,601,435
110,075
106,133
Phase 5b
bench:baseline
Sonnet 5.5
4h 18m
186
56,967,620
4,053,090
554,919
Phase 5b
review:baseline
Opus 5.5
37 min
41
5,927,430
513,593
196,667
Phase 7
harness
Sonnet 5.5
3h 15m
132
30,432,891
4,806,449
353,843
Phase 7
tune:database
Sonnet 5.5
2h 03m
131
34,304,403
2,262,815
396,646
Phase 7
tune:runtime
Sonnet 5.5
3h 37m
111
19,007,929
3,623,367
256,282
Phase 7
tune:crypto-logging
Sonnet 5.5
1h 48m
158
35,572,070
1,927,568
344,266
Phase 7
tune:post
Sonnet 5.5
2h 10m
198
47,095,680
3,195,300
387,939
Phase 7
verify:phase7
Opus 5.5
34 min
70
10,954,481
602,651
207,613
Phase 7
fix:phase7
Sonnet 5.5
27 min
45
4,383,159
258,968
132,158
Phase 7
rebaseline+review
Opus 5.5
4h 44m
77
11,989,457
2,188,647
252,046
Phase 6
triage
Opus 5.5
32 min
68
5,621,798
386,453
117,555
Phase 6
fix:harness-overrides-mask-path
Sonnet 5.5
1 min
18
849,595
58,379
54,966
Phase 6
fix:manifest-allowlist-gap-custom_styles
Sonnet 5.5
0 min
8
362,335
33,178
50,420
Phase 6
fix:infra-oom-concurrent-compares
Sonnet 5.5
0 min
10
446,806
32,753
50,784
Phase 6
verify:phase6
Opus 5.5
27 min
47
3,615,615
163,310
98,282
Phase 7
tune:7.5-threads-gc
Opus 5.5
1h 07m
37
2,834,078
538,783
100,279
Phase 7
check:7.5
Opus 5.5
25 min
32
1,967,171
237,353
80,430
?
Not counted: Ren's run in Muse. Its token use isn't in the hand-off and no transcript was shared, so it is unknown, not zero.
Method: site/collect_tokens.py reads the session transcript and every agent-*.jsonl under its subagents/ folder, keeps the last line of each API message id (Claude Code repeats a message's usage on each content block), and maps workflows to phases by their script names. Rule: usage summed once per API message id; processed = input + cache writes + cache reads + output; fresh = input + cache writes + output.
The challenge began in Muse, an AI agent environment, with an agent called Ren: rebuild Campfire's five benchmarked workloads in F# with Falco and Datastar, and beat the official Rust port.
F# wins 5/5
3.1×Ren: F# 6,373 req/s vs official Rust 2,049, on the Linux box.Room page
7.3×Ren: F# 7,390 req/s vs official Rust 1,006, on the Linux box.Messages page
5.9×Ren: F# 13,775 req/s vs official Rust 2,329, on the Linux box.Sidebar
9.3×Ren: F# 4,186 req/s vs official Rust 450, on the Linux box.Search
1.31×Ren: F# 1,034 req/s vs official Rust 789, on the Linux box.Post a message
Ren's final scoreboard, F# over Rust. None of it measured the same pages.
56,889req/s for posting a message, with 0 rows written
7,763once the post script kept its session cookie: 16,306 rows written
What we found on the M4
On 5 October the zip landed on an Apple M4 Mac. Before trusting any number, the first job was to rebuild both apps and rerun the benchmark on this machine. Every finding below was reproduced, and each is in the logs.
Comparability
The numbers came from a different machine
Every figure in STATUS.md was measured on the Linux box Ren ran on. Chris asked for a rebaseline before anything else, so the official Rust port (ccece30, reference 90b3300) was cloned and built on the Mac, and a macOS copy of the harness (bench_mac.sh) was written. The original bench_official.sh was left unchanged.
"Importantly - we should rebaseline on this hardware." (Chris, 10:50)
Invalid in every run
The messages workload never measured the official app
The seed gave all 6,000 Watercooler messages one created_at. Rails and Rust page messages by created_at, so the official app's "messages before X" page was empty (204). The harness also asked for messages before id 9250, which belongs to room 20, so the official app answered 404. Both bugs held in every earlier run. The seed now gives each message its own timestamp, and the harness asks for 5950.
bench_official.sh line 15: BEFORE_ID=9250 # near the end of watercooler (9300 msgs)
Bogus twice
The official post number counted requests that wrote nothing
wrk's Lua script built each POST with a fresh header table, and wrk.format replaces the -H headers with it, so the session cookie never went out. The same bug produced Ren's 9,247 req/s and the first M4 run's 66,869 to 77,035 req/s with zero rows saved. A side-by-side probe settled it: merging into wrk.headers wrote one row per request.
56,889 req/s0 rows written
7,763 req/s16,306 rows written
nomerge: 56,889 req/s, rows written 0. merge: 7,763 req/s, rows written 16,306.
Not identical
The F# app rendered different pages
The challenge's own rule was identical output. The F# app rendered 50 messages per page to the official 40, hardcoded every message timestamp (Program.fs line 253: ts = "1791115200000"), returned search results in the reverse order, answered 200 where the official app 404s, and sent pages 30 to 60% smaller. Its search lead came from serving the whole page from an in-memory cache.
Room page: 273,500 bytes (F#) vs 395,855 bytes (official).
M4 rebaseline, 5 Oct 11:16. Median of 3 alternating reps, 16 connections, req/s. Fixed harness; output still not identical, so these ratios are not like-for-like.
Claimed F#/Rust ratios from the challenge app. They are off the chart on purpose: the pages weren't identical to Rust's, so they don't measure the same work.
Muse, Ren's F# app (Linux box)
F# wins all 5
Room page3.1×
Messages page7.3×
Sidebar5.9×
Search9.3×
Post a message1.31×
Not comparable: F# served lighter pages than the Rust port, the messages workload hit a 404/204 in the official app, and the first post number came from unauthenticated redirects.
Same app, rebaselined on the M4 (5 Oct)
Harness bugs fixed
Room page1.83×
Messages page1.93×
Sidebar5.4×
Search28×
Post a message1.74×
Still not comparable: 50 vs 40 messages a page, a hardcoded timestamp, reversed search order and 30-60% smaller pages. So the work became a full, identical-in-use port, and every dot below renders the same bytes as Rust.
The overnight run
5benchmarked workloads
Room page, messages page, sidebar, search, post a message: the scoreboard in Campfire's README.
713lines of F#, one file
campfire-fs/Program.fs: Falco handlers, a SQLite pool, page caches and every optimization.
31functional tests
test_functional.py, required to pass before any benchmark.
5 of 5wins claimed
"F# wins all 5 workloads", in AI-ORIENTATION.md.
Ren's stack
F#
Falco 5.2
Falco.Datastar 1.3
Microsoft.Data.Sqlite
bcrypt
wrk 4.2.0
Linux box
What Chris asked Ren for
Chris's instructions to Ren, as Ren recorded them in STATUS.md:
Don't stop until F# beats Rust. Then post results.
user asked for 30-min status updates; cron campfire-challenge-status created
User redirected: compare vs OFFICIAL Rust port.
user set status template (Time/Version/Run/Description/Perf table)
user corrected: comparison requires identical output.
user ordered 30-min updates to always state current work ("working on X")
Official Rust post VERIFIED. The 9,247 req/s from Run 5 was BOGUS. FINAL: F# wins ALL 5 workloads.
Ren's final scoreboard (AI-ORIENTATION.md, Linux box, req/s)
Workload
F#
Official Rust
Ren's verdict
Room page
6,373
2,049
F# 3.1x
Messages page
7,390
1,006
F# 7.3x
Sidebar
13,775
2,329
F# 5.9x
Search
4,186
450
F# 9.3x
Post message
1,034
789
F# 1.31x
The hand-off
The hand-off, posted to Slack at 10:45 and pasted into Claude Code as a screenshot:
CKchris kluis
[zip link: campfire-challenge.zip]
Read AI-ORIENTATION.md (in the zip root) Execute the build/test/benchmark steps in AI-ORIENTATION.md
686KB, expires Oct 7. The orientation file covers the methodology, current 5-for-5 scoreboard, how to build/test/benchmark, the optimization techniques used, and the known correctness debt.
Tokens in Muse: Muse's own token use is unknown. Nothing in the zip records it and no transcript of Ren's run was handed over, so this page counts only what Claude Code recorded.
Yes. I want to do a PR to: https://github.com/basecamp/once-campfire with the F# code. But to do that we need to make sure its identical in use to the original and the rust version AND hopefully spanks them on everything. The only thing it doesnt have to match is bugs. We can fix those ;)
That turned a 713-line benchmark stub into a port of the whole app. The Rust port it would be translated from is about 63,000 lines: 177 routes, Action Cable, Web Push, bot webhooks and attachments, built in 398 commits. Every other port lives in its own repo and the Rails README links it, so the plan became an own repo plus a README PR. Six decisions went to Chris as a slide brief, and he answered in one message.
D1
Where does the code live?
Own repo, ckluis/once-campfire-fsharp (MIT), then a README PR upstream for them to review and host.
D2
How strict is "identical in use"?
Rust's bar: pass its parity harness (HTML, DOM, accessibility, pixels, Cable frames) and stay a drop-in (schema, storage, cookies).
D3
Stack?
Kestrel + Falco routing; the Rails frontend ships unchanged. Datastar becomes an optional Phase 8, judged on pixels and behavior, only with sign-off.
D4
Docker?
colima. Parity and bench scripts run inside its VM.
D5
Where do the numbers come from?
bench/run with Rails, Rust and F# on one machine; quote ratios to Rust and ask the maintainers to re-measure.
D6
How is it built?
Phased multi-agent workflows, each phase gated before the next starts.
Chris's reply, 11:37
D1: A (with then a PR for them to review and host)
D2: A
D3: A (but can we not make the ui the same with Datastar and if yes - we should do that)
D4: A
D5: A
D6: A - use a workflow
The port translates the Rust port module by module, tests included, and uses the Rails app as the oracle when Rust is unclear. Each phase ran as one workflow with the same routine, and the orchestrating session gated it before the next began.
1BuildSonnet 5.5 · 1 per unit, one at a time
Port a Rust crate with every one of its tests and golden-vector cases. Commit each unit. Report counts, deferrals and divergences honestly.
2VerifyOpus 5.5 · 1
Adversarial. Never edits source. Finds every way F# differs from Rust or Rails, with evidence, ranked critical, major or minor.
3FixSonnet 5.5 · 1
Fixes each finding with a test that would have caught it, or shows with evidence that it isn't real.
4Re-verifyOpus 5.5 · 1
Confirms each original finding is closed and looks for anything new the fixes introduced.
5GateOrchestrator (Opus 5.5) · main session
bin/verify green, scope check (reference/, rust/, vectors/ untouched), hand fixes, disk cleanup, plan and memory updated, then launch the next phase.
Verifier findings, Phases 1 to 5: 1 critical, 4 major, 27 minor. The per-phase counts, and what the re-verifiers still found, are in each phase's panel.
bin/verify: Release build with warnings as errors, then every test. Green from the first commit.
Parity harness fixed on macOS: two containers talked through a Unix socket on colima's macOS file share, which silently blocks it. Both Rails and Rust failed sign-in until the socket moved inside the VM (PARITY_NET_DIR=/tmp/parity-net).
Rails accepted 51 of 51 cookies, signed ids and messages that F# issued.
Mutation check: breaking the cookie purpose prefix failed 4 golden tests and 10 of the 51 Rails checks.
Verifier's major finding: JSON floats on an exact decimal tie rounded to even, where Rust takes the upper digit.
System.Security.Cryptography
BCrypt.Net-Next
PBKDF2
AES-256-GCM
MSBuild codegen
What the builders were told
1.1 Port rust/crates/ruby, rails_compat and routes with every test; exercise every golden-vector case and assert the count; have Rails verify the cookies F# issues.
1.2 Port rust/crates/assets: Propshaft digests and compilers, importmap byte-identical to the reference, vendored JS/CSS and port-owned overrides.
The prompt said to use AngleSharp unless it couldn't match. It couldn't stop at Gumbo's tree-depth limit, so the builder ported html5ever's tokenizer and tree builder instead.
Rich text matched Rust on about 240,000 generated inputs and a fresh 6,258-case Rails corpus, with no differences.
148 of 148 Rust db tests ported; Rails boots on a database F# wrote. Thumbnails and video posters byte-identical: 11 of 11.
Microsoft.Data.Sqlite
html5ever port
NetVips
libvips 8.16.1
ffmpeg
What the builders were told
2.1 Port rust/crates/db: one writer with a bounded queue, a reader pool, the exact SQLite settings, prepared statements reused per connection.
2.2 Port rust/crates/richtext, "the highest-risk area for security". Use AngleSharp unless you find it cannot match; parse equivalence is decided by Rust's tests, not by assumption.
2.3 Port rust/crates/storage: blobs, disk service, marcel content types, libvips variants, ffmpeg posters with Rails' argv.
Verifier1 critical2 major5 minorRe-verify1 major3 minor
Gate660 tests, 654 pass, 6 intentional skips
Units
Kit core: Ctx, params, cookies, session, CSRF
Kit front: TLS, ACME, HTTP/2, gzip splicing
Cable: RFC 6455 framing, pub/sub
What happened
The verifier's one critical finding: JSON objects parsed in O(n²) in their key count, so one Cable message under 1 MiB could pin a CPU for tens of seconds. Fixed and tested with a 100,000-key object.
bin/kit-differential: 0 differences on up to 45,000 generated inputs and about 6,000 random HTTP requests, after it found 4 real bugs (ASP.NET's MultipartReader accepted bodies with no closing boundary).
Kit core: 97 tests for Rust's 96. Front server: 60 of 61.
Kestrel
Falco routing
multer port
ZstdSharp
RFC 8555 ACME
WebSockets
What the builders were told
3.1 Kit core: Ctx, Rails nested params, cookies, session, Sec-Fetch-Site CSRF, formats, body limits, the one adapter on Kestrel.
3.2 Kit front server: replaces Thruster in one process. TLS with Let's Encrypt in Thruster's cache format, HTTP/2, compression, response cache, gzip splicing.
3.3 Cable: the Action Cable protocol, in-process pub/sub, a lagging receiver disconnected with reconnect: true, never silently skipped.
22,374 of 22,374 renders byte-identical to the Rust views crate (36,279 of 36,279 at three times the variations).
Untuned and already faster than Rust's renderer: cached room page 10.5 µs vs 12.7, messages page 3.4 vs 5.6, uncached room page 146 vs 185.
Gate hand-fix: an element-id helper wrote a view-model string unescaped; it now checks for itself, with a test.
pooled UTF-8 buffers
IBufferWriter
80 templates
bin/views-differential
What the builders were told
4.1 Views foundations and the differential: a pooled UTF-8 template writer, helpers, the fragment cache, layouts, and bin/views-differential comparing raw bytes with Rust.
4.2 The hot-path templates: rooms, messages, searches, the sidebar, byte-identical across every message type.
4.3 Every remaining template: list the directory and check off each file.
First parity smoke against Rails: 212 screen states in Chromium. The server HTML, live DOM, accessibility, pixel and Cable-frame layers matched; failing cells differed in the network layer, mostly cookie refreshes and three JS files Rust also overrides on purpose.
Verifier's major finding: Kestrel's default 32 KB header and 8 KB request-line limits would lock out a browser with many cookies. The fix overshot on long URLs, so the gate capped them at hyper's 65,534 bytes by hand.
The image is a drop-in for Rails': uid 1000, /rails/storage, ports 80 and 443, the ONCE hooks.
Docker
ReadyToRun
Web Push / VAPID
webhooks
opengraph
network guard
What the builders were told
5.1 Boot, wiring and the image: CLI, router (111 route recognitions, asserted), config, concerns, jobs, Active Storage, a drop-in Docker image.
5.2 The account-side controllers, presenters and the QR code, with a replay against the reference.
5.3 The hot path: rooms, messages, search, presenters; timestamp-based paging, 40 per page.
5.4 Channels and integrations: seven app channels, Turbo streams, Web Push, webhooks, opengraph behind a private-network guard.
Each layer was compared with the port it was translated from, or with Rails itself, on generated inputs, not samples. The differential tools are in bin/: views-differential, richtext-differential, kit-differential, db-differential.
22,374 / 22,374view renders byte-identical to Rust
~240,000rich-text inputs, 0 differences
45,000kit inputs in the largest differential run, 0 differences
51 / 51F#-issued cookies and messages Rails accepted
11 / 11thumbnails and posters byte-identical to Rails
212screen states in the first parity smoke
What went wrong along the way
A socket colima wouldn't share
The parity harness proxies the browser through a forwarder container over a Unix socket in the repo. colima's macOS file share blocks socket files without an error, so every sign-in failed. Moving the socket into the VM fixed it.
Rust builds eat disk
Every comparison tool compiled its own copy of Rust's dependencies, about 500 MB each. Chris flagged it mid-Phase 3; about 5.5 GB came back, all tools now share target/rust, and bin/clean-rust-builds runs at every gate.
Differential outputs left behind
In Phase 4 the comparison scripts left 4.3 GB of output; target/ went from 4.3 GB to 41 MB, and the scripts now delete their outputs when a comparison passes.
Docker layers pile up
Phase 5 rebuilt the image often enough to leave 15 GB of old layers in colima; free disk fell to 12 GB. bin/clean-docker now runs at every gate alongside the Rust cleanup.
It probably makes sense to push hard in each individual area and then continue until we can baseline and see how far off F# is. And importantly we added falco and other tooling which might make it slower than rust, but easier to develop in. I hope we can beat rust globally but if we get close thats probably a win.
Under load F# runs at about 0.7 to 0.8 of Rust's throughput, ties it posting a message at 16 connections, and is 20 to 93 times faster than Rails, depending on the workload (16 connections). Decoded response bytes are identical to Rust's on every route, every response was 2xx, and every post wrote its row.
Throughput, req/s, median of 3 reps. The bar is F# as a share of Rust; the tick marks parity.
Workload
Rails
Rust
F#
F# vs Rust
Room page, c=16
227
28,135
21,003
0.75×
Room page, c=64
218
28,860
23,184
0.80×
Messages page, c=16
390
29,406
23,097
0.79×
Messages page, c=64
371
30,541
24,468
0.80×
Sidebar, c=16
581
27,938
19,115
0.68×
Sidebar, c=64
575
28,494
20,916
0.73×
Search, c=16
410
26,049
19,411
0.75×
Search, c=64
402
32,578
23,208
0.71×
Post a message, c=16
310
6,082
6,186
1.02×
Post a message, c=64
310
5,901
5,321
0.90×
bench/run on colima: server pinned to CPUs 0-3, load generator to 4-7, host network, 3 reps per app, 8 s per HTTP run, the default parity seed. Source: bench/results/baseline-20261006/report.md.
Beyond throughput (same run)
Measure
Rails
Rust
F#
Cold start, docker run to /up
2,308 ms
129 ms
233 ms
Peak memory under load
1,573 MB
402 MB
721 MB
Cable fan-out, 100 clients, msgs/s
95.5
3,086
2,208
Room page p99 at c=16
153 ms
1.11 ms
2.00 ms
Room page, decoded bytes
463,708
416,122
416,122
The skeptical review. Reviewed by a skeptical Opus agent, which re-ran the room page and post a message itself. Its corrections: F#'s c=16 medians were a little optimistic (rerun ratios: room 0.71x, messages 0.74x, sidebar 0.67x, search 0.74x); the single-connection room figure was taken while .NET was still JIT-compiling (about 0.60x in steady state); and the post-a-message tie is the database writer's limit, not efficiency, since F# spends 1.43x Rust's CPU per post. Falco measured at about 29 ns a request.
I'd say we don't need to re-run rust every time. We have a baseline and until we are thoroughly crushing rust and are happy. So for incremental testing - no need to test rust, but for we are finished with this area - we can rebaseline.
Ok with this new pattern - would sageFs help us iterate through loops until we find where we think we are happy and then do a full-test?
Rust became a fixed target: tuning measures F# alone against the stored, reviewed Rust numbers, and Rust and Rails are re-measured only at the re-baseline that closes an area. Iteration split into three tiers so each loop is as short as what it decides. SageFs, the F# live REPL the original challenge named, was installed for the first tier, as an aid to try, not a source of numbers.
Iteration tiers from here on
Tier
Loop time
What runs
What it decides
1
Seconds
In-process A/B micro-benchmarks and the affected tests; SageFs hot reload and live tests optional
Which variant to try
2
Minutes
dotnet publish, mounted into the existing container (no image rebuild), F#-only quick bench against the stored Rust numbers
Whether we're happy with the area
3
About an hour
Rebuild the image; bench/run with Rust and Rails; bin/verify, the differentials and a parity smoke
The number that gets reported
As the relaunched Phase 7 workflow tells every agent
MEASUREMENT RULE (from Chris): do not re-run Rust while tuning. Compare F# against the stored Rust medians in bench/results/phase7-start/ (taken with the same warm-up and harness). Give bench/quick an F#-only mode that reads those stored numbers if it has none (default F#-only; an explicit flag re-measures Rust). Label every intermediate ratio "vs stored Rust baseline". Rust is re-measured only in the final re-baseline at the end of this phase.
ITERATION TIERS (from Chris): iterate fast, then test fully once you are happy with the area.
- Tier 1 (seconds): in-process A/B micro-benchmarks of the function you are changing (BenchmarkDotNet or a Stopwatch harness, Release build) and the affected tests only. SageFs 0.6.904 is installed (~/.dotnet/tools/sagefs; needs export DOTNET_ROOT=$HOME/.dotnet; an F# live REPL/daemon with hot reload, live tests and an MCP server via 'sagefs mcp'; start it with --owner-pid set to your shell's pid so it exits with you, and run 'sagefs stop' before any tier 2 or tier 3 measurement so it adds no CPU noise) as an optional aid: try it, and report under deferred whether it saved time or got in the way. Its timings compare variants only, never get reported.
- Tier 2 (minutes): one rep, only the workloads the change touches (--routes, --concs 16, plus 1 when the change is about latency or spinning), short enough to run several times an hour; no image rebuild: dotnet publish the app (Release, the Dockerfile's publish settings) into target/, run it in a container from the existing campfire-fsharp:app or toolchain image with that directory mounted over the app (same env, seed copy, pinned CPUs, warm-up). Add this as a bench/quick mode (e.g. --mounted DIR) if it doesn't exist, and check once that mounted and image-built runs agree.
- Progress log (Chris watches it): after EVERY tier 2 or tier 3 run, append one JSON object per line to bench/results/phase7-log.jsonl and commit it: {"time": ISO-8601 UTC, "unit": "database|runtime|crypto-logging|post", "tier": 2 or 3, "change": one short sentence, "commit": short sha, "build": "mounted" or the image digest, "kept": true/false, "workloads": {"room_show": {"c16": {"rps": n, "cpu_us": n}, "c1": {...}}, "messages_page": ..., "sidebar": ..., "search": ..., "post_message": ...}} with only the workloads measured. Record F#'s raw numbers; the dashboard computes ratios. Log reverted experiments too (kept=false). Then run python3 bench/progress/build.py, which rebuilds Chris's dashboard (target/phase7-dashboard/index.html); it is only ever rebuilt this way.
- Tier 3 (once per unit, when you are happy): rebuild campfire-fsharp:app from HEAD, bench/quick F#-only from the image on all five workloads at c=1 and c=16 (3 reps), bin/verify with CAMPFIRE_REQUIRE_SEED=1 and all three differentials. That is the unit's reported before/after, and it is logged too.
TIME-BOX: aim to finish a unit in about 2-3 hours of wall time. Once the unit's tier 3 numbers are in, write a short results file and stop; no polishing of write-ups, no side investigations outside the unit's scope (note them under deferred instead).
The plan ends where every other Campfire port ended: in its own repository, linked from the Rails README for the maintainers to review, re-measure and host.
Still running
6
Parity loop
Done
parity/bin/compare, lean then the full matrix, fix, repeat until no new failures. Done when the allowlist is no larger than Rust's.
F# matches the Rust port on all 214 parity cells across 5 seeds: 212 pass, 1 allowed, and 1 fail that Rust shares (the manifest logo URL). Captures are byte-identical to Rust's. The 191 'failures' first seen were the copied harness looking for the overrides at Rust's path.
7
Performance
Done
Profile and optimize against bench/run. Aim: faster than Rust on all five workloads, rows verified for posts; close counts as a win and is reported as close. Known gaps: signed-cookie requests, identity bodies through Kestrel, Db row reads, rich text, plain-frame Cable fan-out, tail latency.
Same-session re-baseline (3 reps, Rust re-measured within 2.7% of its stored numbers): F# 1.24-1.33x Rust at c=16 and 1.22-1.31x at c=64, spending 8-23% less CPU per request. Unit 7.5 then turned off thread-pool hill climbing: p99 on the read pages fell to Rust's level and F# reached 1.22-1.40x at c=16. Rust still leads on c=1 CPU, memory, cold start and Cable fan-out.
Then
In progress
Own repository
ckluis/once-campfire-fSharp, MIT, with this page on GitHub Pages: opened as a pull request for Chris to merge.
Rails, Rust and F# from the same-session bench/run, with the method, the caveats and the known differences.
Pending
Upstream README PR
A row in basecamp/once-campfire's "Other implementations" table, for the maintainers to review, re-measure and host. Waits for Chris's review of the published repo and this page.
749words typed by Chris across the whole port, status pings included
10workflow scripts
Every message Chris typed into the session, verbatim (trimmed only where marked). Task notifications and cross-session notices are left out; the hand-off screenshot appears as a placeholder (its text is in Chapter 1).
campfire on f# - i will send you my current status
[screenshot of the Slack hand-off message]
I want to make this a new /desktop/project
Importantly - we should rebaseline on this hardware.
i dont think its going to get too much more idle
Yes. I want to do a PR to: https://github.com/basecamp/once-campfire with the F# code. But to do that we need to make sure its identical in use to the original and the rust version AND hopefully spanks them on everything. The only thing it doesnt have to match is bugs. We can fix those ;)
D1: A (with then a PR for them to review and host) D2: A D3: A (but can we not make the ui the same with Datastar and if yes - we should do that) D4: A D5: A D6: A - use a workflow
It probably makes sense to push hard in each individual area and then continue until we can baseline and see how far off F# is. And importantly we added falco and other tooling which might make it slower than rust, but easier to develop in. I hope we can beat rust globally but if we get close thats probably a win.
can we make sure to clean up old rust builds - holy crap does that add to disk space fast - only keep whats necessary and maybe like the most recent for ease of use
Colima has 15GB - that feels excessive too... but what do I know
When we are finished I want an index.html for this project and it should talk about the prompt/routine & tokens used to do this from:
Kicked off in Muse Handed over and Muse sucks Built “for real” in phases Tuning phases Delivered
I’m ok if you spin up another agentic session and start to build this out.
How is the f# tuning going?
Excellent. Lets do this!
Curious are you using safeFS and if so would that help the testing cycle time?
And now that we dont need to redo rust builds and have the baseline - I assume cycle time is way faster?
I'd say we don't need to re-run rust every time. We have a baseline and until we are thoroughly crushing rust and are happy. So for incremental testing - no need to test rust, but for we are finished with this area - we can rebaseline.
Ok with this new pattern - would sageFs help us iterate through loops until we find where we think we are happy and then do a full-test?
when do we think we will hit the faster cycle time so I can watch these numbers climb?
oh I think the headline chart should be a f# crawling up with each version (with a timestamp) to show how fast we are improving
Sorry I was on another computer - status?
why would we update the dashboard every 30 seconds if we dont have new data every 30 seconds? cant it just be done as a close out of each test phase?
Its been several hours - do we not have any loops working yet?
I think we can make the one dashboard contain a hover over for each (indicator) dot that contains all of the relevant info for that session and then we probably do not need anything else).
I think add a column to the hover-over with the rust comparison so its really clean.
OH man this chart is soo much better. we should probably put earlier versions on it and add a desccription of the changes and what was done for each dot. This massively trumps a good portion of the index.html
the chart does not have to represent day/time perfectly
time time day day
they can be equally spaced to give some breathing room
I think we should include ruby as well if we got baselines for that - otherwise we can ignore.
why havent we had a ne marker?
Honestly when I see this I think we could do the index.html a lot better. There is way to much to read for most people. We might need hover overs or clicks to open side panels for additional info, but we should make it stupid exciting and fun to read instead of the long narrative "honest" representation. We do not need to be dishonest, but the details can go into side panels or hover over states. Merge this dashboard into the index.html. This is fire.
Seven one-word "status" check-ins, 5 Oct 14:53 to 6 Oct 10:12, each answered with a progress table.
The routine, as code
Each workflow is a small JavaScript script: a COMMON preamble every agent receives, one prompt per unit, then the verifier, fixer and re-verifier prompts. The preamble grew as the phases taught lessons; the later ones add shared Rust build folders, output cleanup, and "Ask nothing; decide, and record decisions under divergences."
COMMON, as Phase 1 sent it (campfire-fs-phase1.js)
You are working in ${REPO}, an F# port of Basecamp's ONCE Campfire. Read AGENTS.md and plans/fsharp-port.md first and follow them exactly: translate from rust/ (the Rust port, pinned), use reference/ (Rails) as the oracle, never edit reference/, rust/ or vectors/, keep the project dependency graph, commit each logical unit on the current branch (port) with a clear message ending in a blank line and "Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>", never push. bin/verify (Release build, warnings as errors, all tests) must pass before you finish. Run Docker-based scripts inside the colima VM: colima ssh -- bash -c 'cd ${REPO} && ...'. Run commands synchronously in the foreground; do not background long commands and wait on them. Report honestly: if something is not done, list it under deferred with the reason.
verify
You are the adversarial verifier for Phase 1. Do not modify source files. Your job is to find every way the F# code ... differs from rust/crates/{ruby,rails_compat,routes,assets} or from Rails (reference/) in behavior. ... Tests that pass vacuously (empty loops over vectors, swallowed exceptions, skipped cases). Run bin/verify yourself and report the result. Report only real, evidenced findings.
fix
Fix every finding below from the Phase 1 verifier, in severity order. For each, either fix it (with a test that would have caught it) or, if you can show it is not a real difference, say why with evidence. Commit the fixes.
reverify
Re-verify Phase 1 after fixes. Do not modify source files. For each original finding, confirm it is fixed (read the code and the new test) or still open. Then run bin/verify. Also report any NEW issue introduced by the fixes.